"The Church Age"and "Israel"

  When we are in a mall, we can look at the directory and decipher where we are by finding the large arrow which states, “YOU ARE HERE.”  Similarly, with the Bible we should be able to see this same arrow pointing to where we are in God's layout and blue prints for us.  Where are we in relationship to the vertical heights and levels, as well as the longitudinal and latitudinal expanse of God's layout?  The details of God's blue prints, the Bible, reveal all the dimensions of time and space in regard to the plan of God. 

    As far as the vertical goes, Ephesians 2:6 says that God “hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus.”  This is our location in the Spirit.  The heights are unlimited in Christ!   In Ephesians 1:3 , we're told further about the all important issue of location, location, location, “Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ:” We are citizens of the Jerusalem which is above, we are come, not will come, to this heavenly Jerusalem.  (Gal.4:26, Heb.12:22, Phil.3:20, Mt.5:14, Ps.87)

    For the longitudinal and latitudinal boarders of the layout/kingdom/house, there are none.  It's no longer kept within the boarders of a tiny Middle Eastern nation. “For the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the Lord, as the waters cover the sea.”  (Is.11:9)  The first century Apostles and disciples went out from Jerusalem, Judea, Samaria, unto the uttermost parts of the earth. (Acts 1:8IT WAS NO MORE IN JERUSALEM, or this mountain that God was to be worshipped, but in all the earth worshippers could now worship in Spirit and in truth..  (Jn.4:21-24)  Yes, it was for the Jew first, but now all that worship him in spirit and in truth are become true Jews.  (Rom.2:28,29

    This expanse of the kingdom has NO END!   Of the increase of His government / kingdom and peace, there shall be NO END!” ( Is.9:7)  No “end times” here.  It is an everlasting covenant.  (Heb.13:20)  Neither do we see a shrinking, “darker and darker” kingdom, but an increasing, expanding kingdom of light. By the way, it is literally impossible to put a “last days” in “everlasting”.  And no, it's not “replacement theology”, but rather expansionist theology!  The Church was begun with Jews only and expanded to include all true Jews.  (Rom.2:28,29)  A Gentile Church has not replaced a Jewish nation.  The Church includes all races and ethnicities, including Old Testament Jews who began it.  (Col. 3:11)  This should put to rest the accusation of “replacement theology.”  The church in the wilderness has simply transformed. (Acts 7:38)  It was always a faith based covenant community.  Esau, Rehab, Ruth, and many Persian converts (Esther 8:17), reveal that it was not a race based covenant.  Not all in the genealogy and nation were of the true Israel.  Many who were of the same physical seed of Abraham were, before God, not actually members of His covenant people. (Rom.9:6-8)  The tribes of Israel, which pierced Him, are no longer with us. (Rev.1:7) All genealogies and records of them were destroyed in 70 A.D. by the sovereignty of God, who was establishing the New Covenant, based solely upon the faith of Abraham.  Faith that was now to be directed toward the seed of Abraham, Christ.  (Mt.3:9, Rom.4:3,11, Gal 3:16)  In that sovereign act of destroying the Old Covenant system and temple, in order to manifest the New Covenant temple of the Body of Christ, those genealogies were destroyed. (Heb.9:8) All hope or reliance upon a natural seed receiving favor from God, was destroyed in the destruction of the physical temple.  Also, all hope of any other future Jewish messiah, other than Jesus, was expelled as well.  This due to the fact that the Messiah was foretold of, throughout the Old Testament scriptures, as descending from the tribe of Judah.  With all genealogies and records destroyed, the Messiah could not be a future Messiah, but had to be one in Israel's past or present in 70 A.D.

     In the Church, all are included within one Olive Tree, not divided into two separate trees.  None are left out.  Jew, Greek, bond, free, male and female, all become one in Christ Jesus.  When Jew, or Gentile, shall turn from unbelief, they are grafted into the tree of life, which is Christ.  (Rom.11:23, 10:11,12, Gal.3:28)  What is lacking within this Covenant?  How does Jesus' blood fall short of creating a perfect Covenant?  Who is left out and not included in this covenant? Does God have a back up covenant, because this new one allows for some peoples to slip through the cracks and is therefore not perfect, but is actually somewhat faulty? 

    “Does God have a wife in physical Israel, and a Bride in the Church?”  This is what is being taught today by those who lay the charge of anti- Semitism towards those who don't embrace their heresy.  “I will show you THE BRIDE, THE LAMBS WIFE.” (Rev.21:9) Could it be spelled out any clearer than this?  The Bride and the wife are the same person!  Do we have a misunderstanding in our culture about one man and one women being the appropriate definition of marriage?  Perhaps this confusion begins in the Church.  Is not this God's plan throughout scripture for marriage?  Is God a two timer? Or, is He faithful to one spouse?  (Mt.19:4-6, 2 Cor.11:2, Rom.7:4)  Is the Church just shacking up (another problem in the culture) with Christ?   Is Jesus the king over two kingdoms?  Is His the Kingdoms, and the power, and the glory, forever?

    “But what about the land promises in Genesis?”  For all the land which thou seest, to thee will I give it, and to THY SEED forever.” (Gen.13:15)  “Now to Abraham and his SEED were the promises made.  He saith NOT, And to SEEDS, as of many; but as of one, And to THY SEED, which is Christ.” (Gal.3:16)   Christ is the promised land!  This is not an anti-Semitic position, only those with an anti-Christ position interpret it as such. Galatians 3:16 should be as elementary as John 3:16!  The elementary foundations of the faith have been replaced in this dual covenant misunderstanding!  The Biblical blueprints have been replaced, and the building process has been brought to a halt.  “If the foundations be destroyed, what can the righteous do?”  (Ps.11:3) What can the righteous do, but lay the proper foundation?  And this, only after first plowing up the fallow ground of the old foundation and moving it out of the way!  The true foundation is that of the Apostles teaching (Acts 2:42, Eph.2:20).  How did they teach?  They extracted from the Old Covenant law, the Psalms, and from the Prophets, revealing Jesus (Mt.16:16-19) in them!  It's really that simple. 

    In Acts 13:1, there were certain prophets and teachers working together.  If the prophets are not working with teachers, you have a recipe for disaster.  If the prophets are working with misguided teachers and teachings, you have the same recipe. Nothing grieves me more than to see true prophets, working with the wrong teachers.  I only know of a couple prophets who are completely free from the poisons of pre-millennialism.  Most continue to look for a physical kingdom in the Middle East, telling us to keep our eyes on Israel, to see God's time table etc…  The scriptures would correct us to keep our eyes upon Jesus, the true Israel and promised land.  (Heb.12:2)  All other distractions would have us blinded and deafened to what God is doing and saying to the Churches. The Apostles teaching has been replaced with Adam's longing for a physical kingdom/utopia.  A physical utopia which Lot, the Pharisees, and the pre-Holy Spirit disciples, all sought. (Lk.17:20-22, Jn.18:36, Acts 1:6, Heb.12:18 ) We ought not to pursue with Adam's desire, lest we face the same purging fire.  Today, we have replaced the foundation of the Apostles teaching.  We have not extracted anything from the scriptures, but rather have injected them with an insane “end times” eschatology, which ministers nothing but death!  Returning to the Old Covenant will always bring back the law and the ministry of death.  This death is what deadens a living relationship with God and men. (Rom.8:6, 2 Cor.3:7)  It's all the same, the Old Israel, the Old Jerusalem, the Old Temple, the Old Covenant, the Old Wineskins, the Old Bottles, the Old Garments, the Old Man/Adam, the Old Creation, and the Old Age.  They are all the same thing!

    “But no, it's talking about the physical land forever.  The land is within an everlasting covenant.”   My covenant,…an everlasting covenant…all the land of Canaan, for an everlasting possession;”  (Gen.17:7,8)   “An everlasting covenant…my sanctuary in the midst of them for evermore.  My tabernacle also shall be with them: yea, I will be their God, and they shall be my people.”  (Ezekiel 37:26,27)  Has this been fulfilled yet?  With the dual covenant layout, it has not.  They will say, that this is referring to a time in the future when the Jews come back into the land and all Israel is saved etc..  This very passage from Ezekiel 37:23,26,27 is quoted in 2 Cor.6:16-18.  If an Old Testament passage is quoted in the New Testament, that is the fulfillment of that passage.  Back to New Testament 101, did Jesus fulfill the Old Covenant Law to the last jot and tittle?  (Mt.5:17,18)  Yes, He is therefore the foundation upon which the New Testament is built. The building/Church/City/ is erected upon the foundation of Jesus fulfilling the requirements of the law and the prophets. The covenant with Abraham has transformed. Jesus fulfills the covenant as Abraham's seed, not seeds as in physical descendants of Abraham.  Sometimes, I can't believe that I'm having to explain this basic foundational truth.  But, the blindness to this simple truth is SO prevailing over the eyes of today's Bible Prophecy teachers and their students.  We must understand that the New Covenant was no small transformation for the faith descendants of Abraham.  Yes, they had a nation and ethnicity, but never was it based simply on the physical seeds.  Paul makes this abundantly clear.  “For they are NOT all Israel, which are of Israel.”  (Rom.9:6)  As I mentioned at the beginning, Esau, Rehab, Ruth  and many others make this point very clear.  It was Abrahams faith alone that pleased God!  Romans chapter four is very repetitive concerning this point. (Gen.15:6, Rom.4:3,11, Mt.3:9)

    “But what about the land of sand over in the middle east?  It's a covenant forever, right?”  The carnal mind, and it's (Adam's) longing for a physical utopia will not let go of this.  It takes some serious pulling down of strongholds.  God nearly had to kill me to break me free from the thinking that had become so ingrained within me on these matters.  That is, the doctrine pre-millennialism.  What I refer to now as the pre-millennial plague that has struck the Evangelical Church. I also refer to it as the “carnal concept of a kingdom.”  (Acts 1:6, Jn.18:36)  As mentioned above, Lot, the Pharisees, and pre-Holy Spirit disciples, were all blinded to the real kingdom, that comes not by the natural eye.  (Lk17:20-22, Jn.3:3, 1 Cor.2:14, Heb.11:10) The land, as I mentioned above, was part of an everlasting covenant THIS COVENANT  UNDERWENT A TRANSFORMTION from being an outward school master of the law (Gal.3:24), to an inward teacher of it, a teacher who has fulfilled it, that is, the indwelling Spirit of Christ.  (Jer.31:33,34)  This is why Paul says, “For he is NOT A JEW   {Today's “Judaism” is a complete hybrid religion, nothing to do with ancient and true Biblical Judaism.  Rev.2:9, 3:9 }, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh: But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the Spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men (outward), but of God.” (Rom.2:28, 29Circumcision was included in the covenant made with Abraham, which was an everlasting covenant.  Back in Genesis 17:7-10, we see that the land was part of this everlasting covenant, but so to was circumcision.  Did circumcision undergo a serious transformation after the cross? Romans 2:28,29, says that it did.  It was now no longer an outward thing, but an inward circumcision of the heart, and ears. (Acts 7:51 CIRCUMCISION UNDERWENT A TRANSFORMATION “For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision availed anything, nor uncircumcision, but a new creature.” (Gal.6:15)  It now took place inwardly, which was invisible to the physical eye, but seen with the spiritual eye.  So to, does it take a spiritual eye to see that the land that was promised as an everlasting POSSESSION, was now a field of land.  A field of land with which God gave all that He had , his own Son, to BUY  it, and take POSESSION of it!  (Mt.13:43, Jn.3:16, Ps.24:1) Men and women, who are made from the land/dust, are this POSSESSION!   THE LAND PROMISES, THAT PROMISED LAND,UNDERWENT A TRANSFORMATION! This is the land with which God's heart beats for.  We must pull our heads out of the middle eastern sand, and remove the foundation of sand, and see that modern day Israel has nothing to do with Biblical Old Covenant Israel.  The temple, the city, and the land/nation were only a type Mt.12:6/Col.1:24-The temple of His body, the Church, Mt.5:14/Gal.4:26/Hb.12:22-The New Jerusalem. Gal.6:16/Mt.21:43/1 Pet.2:9-The New Nation.   Many Christians are lost in the types and shadows.  (Col.2:17)  Living in these shadows creates a serious case of myopiaShadows occur due to an absence of light.  “The light of THE BODY (So too, for the Body of Christ) is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy (the) WHOLE BODY (of Christ) shall be full of light.  But if thine eye be evil (seeing the evil report), thy (the) WHOLE BODY (of Christ) shall be full of darkness.  If therefore the light that is in thee (corporately) be darkness, how great is that  darkness.” (Mt.6:22,23)  Those living in such shadows might be described as shady characters when it comes to the exegesis of the scriptures. 

    “But Old Covenant Israel never came into the full possession of all the physical land promised to them.  Therefore, Israel today needs to seize surrounding countries and  fulfill Bible Prophecy.” This is often taught by today's pre-millennial popes of prophecy.   But, what does the Bible say concerning this? “AND THE LORD GAVE UNTO ISRAEL ALL THE LAND WHICH HE SWARE TO GIVE UNTO THEIR FATHERS; AND THEY POSSESSED IT, AND DWELT THEREIN.  AND THE LORD GAVE THEM REST ROUND ABOUT, ACCORDING TO ALL THAT HE SWARE UNTO THEIR FATHERS:…THERE FAILED NOT OUGHT OF ANY GOOD THING WHICH THE LORD HAS SPOKEN UNTO THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL; ALL CAME TO PASS.” (Joshua 21:43-45)  “No, we need to see this come to pass in our day with a physical Israel.”  This is an argument with something that God said has already come to pass!

    “But Romans 11 says that the Jews will be re-gathered back into the land of Israel.”  There is not a hint of anything to do with  LAND in Romans chapter 11!  The timing of the context of the chapter has to do with Paul's day, not ours.  “Even so then at this present time…” (Rm.11:5 Timing is everything, when relating to Bible Prophecy.  The key prophetic point in this chapter is in verse 25 and 26, when it states that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fullness of the Gentiles be come in.  And so all Israel shall be saved…” The question is then, when and how is “all Israel” saved?  Also, who is included in “all Israel.”  Paul begins by classifying himself as “an Israelite…of the TRIBE of Benjamin.”  (Rm.11:1)  Simply put, the eye's of the TRIBES would be opened at the time of Jesus' coming in the clouds of judgment upon them. “Behold, He cometh with clouds; and every eye shall SEE  {“SEE” is the Greek word Optomai”: Not mere mechanical vision, but to discern clearly, experience, perceive and understand, such as “I see now.”}  him, and they which pierced Him (They in the first century) and all kindreds of the land (“Land,” not Kosmos or globe) shall wail (Mourn in repentance) because of Him. Even so AmenZechariah 12:10,11 is the reference from where this is quoted from.  It continues, and says that they “shall mourn for Him, as one that mourns for his firstborn.  In that day shall there be great mourning IN JERUSALEM.”  Location, location, location.  Jerusalem is the epicenter for eschatology, which is the last days of the Old Covenant system's headquarters. At the city's destruction, the lights would be turned on for Old Covenant Jews to SEE that Jesus was the messiah, because He had prophesied of this very event.  Again, it was “they that pierced him”, that is, they in the first century would see His coming in the clouds of judgment.  Even THE VERY LEADER OF THE TRIBES  (Caiaphas) WOULD “SEE” and understand that Jesus was the Messiah who was on the right hand of power , coming in the clouds of  judgment. {“Clouds” of Judgment: Is.19:1, Ez.32:7-9, 30:3}  “Jesus saith unto him, (Caiaphas the high priest) nevertheless I say UNTO YOU, Hereafter shall YE SEE the Son of Man sitting on the right hand of power, and COMING IN THE CLOUDS of heaven. (Mt.26:64)  The TRIBES would mourn in repentance according to Rev.1:7 and Zech.12:10,11.  They had not heeded the word's of Jesus, firstly, to believe on Him as the messiah, and secondly, to flee from the city.   (Lk.21:22,21)  Therefore, they would have to experience a death bed conversion, nevertheless ALL ISRAEL WAS SAVEDALLin a corporate since, never means every last individual.  “America is a Christian nation,” “India is a Hindu nation“, “China shall be saved“, “The nations of them which are saved” (Rev.21:24), these are all examples of nations as a whole, not with the idea of including every last individual. Even the futurist view says that 2/3rds of Israel will be torched, with only 1/3 being saved.  So ALL Israel being saved is a complete and whole amount.   ALL / WHOSOEVER called upon the name of the Lord, Jew and Gentile, was saved. (Rm.10:11-13For God hath concluded them (Jew and Gentile) ALL in unbelief, that He might have mercy upon ALL. (Rm.11:32)   ALL that would be included would consist of Jews and Gentiles.  The harvest and fullness of both, would take place at the end of the Old Covenant age. (Mt.13:39)  Both are grafted into one Olive tree/Israel, not two. They become one in the Israel of God, “that He might have mercy upon ALL.  (Rm.11:32,Gal.6:16,Eph.2:14)  All who are saved are of the true Israel.  This one true nation under God (1Pet.2:9, Mt.21:43) does have some illegal immigrants.  “They are not ALL ISRAEL , which are of Israel.” (Rom.9:6 All true Israel would be CALLED, not of the “Jews” only, but also of Gentiles?”  (Rom.9:24That is, “the gifts and CALLING of God are without repentance.” (Rom.11:29) “Not of works, but of Him that CALLETH.” (Rom.9:11)

    By the way “the fullness of the Gentiles” (Rm.11:25) seems to be connected with the “times of the Gentiles” in Lk.21:24.  It says, “And they (Old Covenant Jews, particularly those living in Jerusalem) shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until THE TIMES OF THE GENTILES be fulfilled.”  Again, timing has everything to do with Bible Prophecy.  When is “THE TIMES” of the Gentiles, and how long does it last?  In Luke 21 in the “Olivet Discourse”  (parallel  to Mt.24, and Mk13), Jesus says, seven verses after referring to THE TIMES OF THE GENTILES”, that “This generation shall not pass away, till all be fulfilled.”  (Lk.21:32)  The phrase This Generation is used a few verses before Matthew's Olivet Discourse in Mt.23:36.  It states that “All these things shall come upon this generation.”  The phrase is used about seventeen times in the New Testament, such as, “this adulterous and sinful generation, “This wicked generation”  , “whereunto shall I liken this generation,   “…Ninevaeh shall rise in judgment with this generation.” “…blood …shed from the foundation of the world, may be required of this generation.”(Mk.8:38, Mt.12:45, Mt.11:16, Mt.12:41, Lk.11:50.)  This is a very abbreviated list.  For a full list of the phrase This generation go to the article, “Are we living in the last days?”  Not one time does Jesus ever use this phrase for any other generation, except for the one present in the first century! He only uses it in reference to the generation to whom He was speaking! The single word “generation” (“Genea”) is used thirty something times in the New Testament.  Not one time is it referring to a race, as many teachers try to say, without mentioning a single scripture to support their claim.  They do so in an attempt to twist out of this most devastating evidence against the pre-millennial view. Therefore, Lk.21:32 tells us WHEN the times of the Gentiles would be fulfilled. (Lk.21:24)  Before that generation passed away! 

     HOW LONG was Jerusalem trodden down of the Gentiles?  Most Bible's have a cross reference here to Rev.11:2.  It says that the “holy city”/Jerusalem shall they tread under foot FORTY AND TWO MONTHS.”  How long?  Forty and two months, or the three and a half years.  This is something, which is very well documented as being the time of the Jewish-Roman war. (From the middle of 66 A.D to 70 A.D.)  Trodden down (Lk.21:24), tread under foot (Rev.11:2) , for nearly 2000 years?  No, for forty two months, or three and a half years! If you guessed that 1967 was the end of this treading down, just remove the 19 and you are just about spot on. The Gentiles had their time, the times of the gentiles in trampling under foot Jerusalem.  There may by a deeper meaning here as well.  The Gentiles had ruled the world through Pagan Empires from the beginning, according to Daniel 2. There was a disruption of this Gentile rule.  It was a brief (very brief) snap shot or foreshadowing, of the “Son of David's” reign.  Solomon ,the type, put down all opposing Gentile forces. The true “Son of David”, the “stone cut out without hands”, who is Christ, brought His kingdom to break all Gentile kingdoms to pieces.  (Dan.2:34,35)  He would establish the Mountain of His Kingdom (Gal.4:22-26, Heb.12:22, Mt.5:14), which was the Jewish Messiah's kingdom, whose citizen's were true Jews (Rm.2:28,29, Rev.2:9, 3:9) in the expanded Israel of God!  No longer were Pagan Gentiles going to rule the world, but true Jews, who were born a new in the New Jerusalem, would exercise His dominion.  Since the stone hit the Roman Empire (The feet) ,and broke it to pieces, the nations obtaining God's Most Favored Nation trading status, have  always been those most faithful to the Kingship of Jesus. In this trade relationship, the favored nation gives up their own power, and riches, and wisdom, and strength, and honor, and glory, and blessing, righteousness, filthy rags, and sins as scarlet.  They in turn, receive His power, riches, wisdom, and strength, and honor, and glory, and blessing, and righteousness, and the making of their sins to become white as snow. Truly, The Great exchange takes place. (Rev.5:12, 2 Cor.5:21, Is.1:18) “The kingdoms of this world  (Kosmos, Globe) are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of His Christ; and He shall reign forever and ever.” (Rev.11:15)  Only those with a preterist / past fulfillment view can stand upon the reality of this verse. One who holds a futurist view cannot stand upon it, along with the rest of the promises in Revelation.  Promises such as, “they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.”  They cannot stand upon this verse, because they don't believe the preceding verse has yet been fulfilled.  “NOW IS COME salvation, and strength, and THE KINGDOM of our God, AND THE POWER OF HIS CHRIST: for THE ACCUSER of our brethren IS CAST DOWN, which accused them before our God day and night.”  (Rev.12:10)  The view in which one reads Revelation, as either past fulfillment, or yet a future fulfillment, determines what one is willing to stand upon in faith, or not!  In the case of not (The futurist view) one stands upon nothing, but only continues in the sickness of hope deferred (Prov.13:12), waiting for the by and by, pie in the sky goodbye, the rapture.  BIBLE PROPHECY MATTERS!                                                                                                                    Is Jesus the soon and coming king?  Or, is He “the only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of lords”?  (1 Tim.6:15)  The Reformers understood this, as we sing their songs at Christmas.  I've heard radio teachers literally say, that we need to change those songs, because Jesus is NOT now King of kings. Tim Lahaye considers such a notion to be heresy.  Maybe the Reformers saw something that these teachers haven't seen.  Maybe that's why the Reformers changed civilization, and we can't change dung!  This, because we've been taught an evil report, and are functioning in forfeit and self fulfilling prophecy, not true Bible Prophecy!  The New Testament consists of somewhere between one third and one half of it's writings addressing Bible Prophecy.  If it's misunderstood, as it is in our day, then you have up to one half of the New Testament filed in the wrong filing cabinet, causing much confusion.  The confusion then taints one's lenses in how one interprets the remaining half of the New Testament. Bible Prophecy matters!

    As I mentioned previously, the position I am taking is often accused of being “replacement theology”, which is anti-Semitic.  I don't believe that the Church has replaced Israel, but that the Church is Israel!  (Gal.6:16, 1 Pet.2:9, Acts 7:38)  Meditate on that for a while, and the lights may turn on for you.  A Gentile church did not replace a Jewish nation and people.  The Church began with no one but Jews!  It then expanded it's boarders to make all peoples into true Jews. (Rev.2:9, 3:9)  The name “Israel” means governed by God, literally “He will rule as God.” Jesus fulfills all the types in the Old Testament.  Therefore, Jesus fulfills this rule as God.  The increase of God's Government / Kingdom would, through the Messiah, increase and expand the rule of God from a type, in a tiny nation in the Middle East, to cover the earth.  (Is.9:7, 11:9, Ps.24:1)  The Gospel went first to Jews. The Church began with Jews, and the New Covenant includes Jews.  (Col.3:10,11, Gal.3:28)  How is this anti-Semitic?

    By the way, who is really anti-Semitic when it comes to eschatology?  Is it not those who pay to fly Jews to Israel so that they can be destroyed in a future inevitable holocaust?  This is according to their own misunderstanding of Bible Prophecy and Zechariah 13:8.  If they had the Spirit of Christ on this matter they would be warning Jews to flee from Israel, as Jesus did in His day prior to the destruction of Jerusalem!  (Luke 21:20,21)  Thankfully, such an inevitable holocaust is not to be unleashed in Israel according to Bible Prophecy.  However, the question is are the children of this insane eschatology going to come out of the stands and onto the field and help to fulfill “Bible Prophecy”?  John Hagee, the chief accuser of the “replacement theology” “heresy” , is a perfect example of doing this very thing today.  He is no longer on the welcoming committee to the coming of the Lord, but is the head of the organizing committee.  He's making sure that Armageddon is on schedule and would kill us all if he were not restrained. To start with, he thinks that a rebuilt temple in Jerusalem is something that the Bible foretells. Many other top Christian leaders are assisting “The Temple Mount Faithful”, to insure that a temple is rebuilt in order to fulfill “Bible Prophecy”.  Can you say BOOM ?  This Pastor of Disaster and self proclaimed foreign policy expert has come under some criticism lately from Christian and none Christian articles. “John Hagee wants war with Iran, and he wants it now”, was the title of a recent critical article on “Pastor Strangelove”, as another article describes him. The invoking of war, in order to see the kingdom established, is rooted in the carnal concept of a kingdom.  “If my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight… (Jn.18:36)  In regard to Hagee's heresy accusation towards us, perhaps we should send him an “H” (heresy) bomb charge right back.  Consider some of the following quotes by the “H manhimself:   

    “EVERYONE else, whether Buddhist or Bahi'a, NEEDS TO BELIEVE IN JESUS, BUT NOT THE JEWS.  Jews already have a covenant with God that has never been replaced with Christianity.” (Contrasting John 14:6, 1 Jn.2:23, Romans 10:12,13, Jn.3:36, Acts 15:11, 4:12)


   “The Jews were not rejecting Jesus as Messiah, IT WAS JESUS WHO WAS REFUSING TO BE THE MESSIAH TO THE JEWS.”  (Contrasting Mt.23:37, Jn.1:11, Jn.3:16)


    LET US PUT AN END TO THE CHRISTIAN CHATTER THAT “ALL JEWS ARE LOST,  AND CAN'T BE IN THE WILL OF GOD UNTIL THEY CONVERT TO CHRISTIANITY…There are a certain number of Jews in relationship with God right now through divine election.” (In relationship without Jesus?-Jn.14:6, 1 Jn.2:22,23)


     “I believe that every Gentile person can only come to God through the cross of Christ.  I believe that EVERY JEWISH PERSON WHO LIVES IN THE LIGHT OF THE TORAH, WHICH IS THE WORD OF GOD, HAS A RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD AND WILL COME TO REDEMPTION.  (Romans 3:20,Gal..3:24, 2:21, He's saying that one may come to redemption without Jesus, the meaning and fulfillment of every jot, tittle, and syllable of the Torah.) 


     “TRYING TO CONVERT JEWS IS A WASTE OF TIME”  (Romans 1:16, Mark 16:15, John 3:16, Mt.28:19- ALL nations/ethnos: nations, ethnicities, cultures.) 

    Speaking concerning his latest book “In Defense of Israel”, Hagee states the following:

IT SCRIPTURALLY PROVES…THAT JESUS DID NOT COME TO EARTH TO BE THE MESSIAH…IT WILL PROVE...JESUS REFUSED BY WORD AND DEED TO CLAIM TO BE THE MESSIAH…  (John 4:25,26 states otherwise, “…I know that Messias cometh, which is called Christ: when He is come, He will tell us all things.  Jesus saith unto her, I that speak unto thee am He.”  Maybe we should also look at the 569 times that the New Testament uses the word Christ/Messiah in regard to Jesus.) One first century Jew saw this revelation by going beyond his own flesh, something John Hagee needs to do.  “…Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God… for FLESH and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.” (Mt.16:16, 17)  Jesus did not correct Peter on the revelation of His Messiahship, but rather affirmed Peter's confession of it. 


And finally, in relationship to “Bible Prophecy” ,Hagee assigns the following predetermined inevitable destiny for the nation of Iran:

“THE U.S. MUST JOIN ISRAEL IN A PRE-EMPTIVE MILITARY STRIKE AGAINST IRAN TO FULFILL GOD'S PLAN TO ISRAEL AND THE WEST…A BIBLICALLY PROPHESIED END TIME CONFRONTATON WITH IRAN, WHICH WILL LEAD TO THE RAPTURE, TRIBULATION, AND THE SECOND COMING OF CHRIST.”  Is not this non-sense beyond a hindrance to our missionary brothers and sisters attempting to reach and teach the nation of Iran with God's goodnews toward them?  

     I contacted Jews for Jesus about these statements and got this response from Mrs. Marty Walker their Chief Correspondent.  “We agree that Pastor Hagee's ideas are unbiblical and dangerous to our Jewish people.”  She also referred me to a few articles written by David Bickner confronting Mr. Hagee. You can find them at: 02/01 , ,

    Hagee's heresy is in direct opposition to the New Testament scriptures.  Could you imagine him saying these things to Paul and the other Apostles in the first century?  Yet, there is hardly an evangelical pulpit, or media ministry that would not welcome John Hagee with arms wide open.  Virtually no one would dare challenge him on these matters, because he's a patronized member of the Christian media inner circle.  

    To stray from the foundation of the Apostles teaching has resulted in some catastrophic results with this people group (Modern day “Jews.”)  Of course, the inquisition's carnal concept of a kingdom resulted in fighting with physical swords against those who don't convert.  The Crusaders did much of the same. (Jn.18:36)  The pre-millennial concept of this carnal kingdom has resulted in not “wasting their time” in evangelizing this people group (Contrary to Mt.28:19, Mk.16:15), because it's not there time yet.  Oh, the severity of misinterpreting timing in Bible Prophecy.  Many believe that the church must first be raptured, at which point God will again begin to work with the nation and people of Israel.  I have friends that have informed me as to how the leader of our country's largest non-denominational denomination, believes as does Mr. Hagee, that it is a waste of time and resources to evangelize Jews.  This is, according to Hagee, because it's not yet their time to believe in Jesus.  Yet, the scriptures say to the contrary, “For I am not ashamed of THE GOSPEL of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to everyone that believeth; TO THE JEW FIRST, and also to the Greek.” (Rom.1:16) “Preach THE GOSPEL TO ALL creation.” (Mk.16:15For he saith, I have  heard thee in A TIME ACCEPTED, and in the day of salvation have I succoured thee: behold,  NOW IS THE ACCEPTED TIME; behold, NOW IS THE DAY OF SALVATION(2 Cor.6:2)  Others continue in this same time warp and say that many Jews are coming to Christ today, because it's that time when God will rapture His Church any minute now, and the time when He is beginning to deal with Jews once again. Perhaps we should back out and see the big picture here.  Maybe, because of certain faithful witness' in the church, particularly groups like Jews for Jesus, the gospel is bearing fruit after a few decades of plowing and planting the word of God.  The word of God will always bear fruit.  By the way, this is much more of a successful approach toward winning a people group, than is the other options that the Church has taken.  One of those approaches was to kill this people group in the name of Christ.  Another, as we've just looked at, is to forget about them and say that it's a waste of time, because it's not yet their time.                                        

    I think that the only replacement theology that this generation of preachers, such as John Hagee, has to be concerned with is the replacement of their theology.  As well as the replacement of themselves by Samuels, Calebs, and Joshua's! There will be a replacement by leaders who will lead God's people in an Eschatological Reformation, which in turn will transform the nations.  Leaders that will reject this return to the bondage of spiritual Egypt, physical Jerusalem (Rev.11:8, Gal4:24-26) , and that corrupt old system run by that corrupt OLD man Adam.  Adam functions in everything that is OLD.  The OLD Temple, City, Nation,  and Covenant.  Christ, the NEW man, functions in all things that have become NEW.   The NEW  Temple, City, Nation, and Covenant. An everlasting covenant, with no last days!     

     We are being taught today, that where we are in God's layout is in a place referred to as “The Church Age”.  The Church, they say, was a mystery to the prophets, and not really foreseen by them.  It is an age of Grace unknown within the Old Testament

scriptures.  It's really just a parenthesis (A parenthesis longer than the entire span of the Old Covenant.) in the plan of God, to where God will soon remove his Church and begin in relationship again with His Old Covenant people.  The New Testament scriptures say otherwise.  Acts 3:24 states that, “Yea, and ALL THE PROPHETS from Samuel and those that follow after, as many as have spoken, have likewise foretold of these days.  Ye are the children of the prophets, and of the covenant which God made with our fathers, saying unto Abraham, And in thy seed shall all the kindred's of the earth be blessed.”  Blessed in the New Covenant through Abrahams seed, which is Christ!  (Gal.3:16)  We read the same thing in Acts 15:14-19.  “God at the first did visit the Gentiles, to take out of them a people for His name.  AND TO THIS AGREE THE WORDS OF THE PROPHETS; as it is written, After this I will return, and will build again the tabernacle of David, which is fallen down; and I will build  again the ruins thereof, and I will set it up:  That the residue of men might seek after the Lord, and all the Gentiles, upon whom my name is called, saith the Lord, who doeth all these things.  Known unto God are all his works from the beginning of the world.  Wherefore my sentence is, that we trouble not them, which from among the Gentiles are turned to God:” Acts 26:22,23 continues to extract from the Old Testament scriptures concerning the New Testament Church.  “I continue unto this day, witnessing both to small and great, SAYING NONE OTHER THINGS THAN THOSE WHICH THE PROPHETS AND MOSES DID SAY SHOULD COME: That Christ should suffer, and that he should be the first that should rise from the dead, and should shew light UNTO THE PEOPLE, AND TO THE GENTILES.”

    Ephesians 3:21 uses the words CHURCHand AGE.”  But how does it use them?  “Unto Him be glory in THE CHURCH by Christ Jesus THROUGHOUT ALL AGES, AGE (AION) WITHOUT END.  Amen.”   Clearly here, The Church Age has no end, it's without end!   The reason for this is because, the perfect covenant, lacking nothing and excluding no one, is an everlasting covenant!  (Heb.13:20)   Again, you cannot force any “last” anything into this Covenant.  So, where are we in the layout of God's plan?  We are right here in the everlasting covenant.  If we don't know where we are, then we are being misdirected and experiencing confusion. Neither do we know where we're going, as we are walking around in circles looking for the exit door (rapture) of the mall.  Here's a rhema for the Body of Christ, Your not going anywhere Your not going to “fly away, Oh Glory”.  I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world…”  (Jn.17:15)  We are put here for a reason.  To be made unto our God kings and priests and we shall reign on the earth.”  (Rev.5:10, Rev.2:26, 27)  Kings need to be made/trained up and matured in order to rule responsibly.  This takes much diligence, preparation and testing.  We did not sign up to simply go to heaven one day when we die, and get our donkey's kicked here and now in the meantime!  We are to exercise authority over the nations!  Matthew 28:18-20, Ps. 2-Rev.2:26, 27.   It's not about some day in the future, rather it's about the nasty here and now!  We're staying put, deal with it!  Get out of bed, get a job, go to school, be responsible and pursue excellence!  And begin to set long term goals, because you are going no where! You especially won't go anywhere without long term goals.  The Churches in America today have the goals of one who's on death row.  That is, short term goals Long term goals cannot be obtained with an unsound mind, influenced from unsound doctrine, whispering in the back of one's mind telling them that at any minute now their going to disappear. This mindset is consistent with many living in insane asylums.  This is why Bible Prophecy matters!  What you believe about the future, even sub-consciously, effects what you do, or don't do, and how you do it!  This hippie, lazy, flakey mentality, disguised as being spiritually minded and ready to fly out of here, won't cut with what the Spirit is saying to the Churches today!  Responsibility, faithfulness, and overcoming is the word for this hour!  “And he/she that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end (Not the end of the world, but rather enduring through trials and testings), TO HIM/HER will I give power over the nations: And HE/SHE shall rule them with a rod of iron; as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers: even as I received of my Father.”  (Rev.2:26,27

    “But I thought we were in the last stage of the “Church Age”, about ready for a “Hale bopp” experience.   After all the doctrine of imminence tells us to be ready at all times.” (Rev.1:1,3)  In the first century, the time for the events within the book of Revelation to unfold was “at hand/Gk.-eggus”.  Did the word eggus change its meaning over the centuries?  Was it not “at hand” in the first century? The contradiction with this misunderstanding is enormous.  If on one hand, all readers of Revelation, including those in the first century, are to be expecting the imminent coming of Christ, then how could they in the first century, because according to their own theory, Jesus isn't coming until the time of the seventh age within the church age, that is the Church in Laodicea. With this understanding, why don't we just live out our Christian lives like the Church in Laodicia and fulfill “Bible Prophecy”?  After all it's predetermined and inevitable.  This misunderstanding is based upon the belief that each of the seven churches in Revelation represents an age, within the “Church age”.  In this faulty theory, it is the seventh age, represented by the Church in Laodicea, which is the last age within the “Church Age.”  “The Church Age” is then ended by the coming of Jesus.  According to their own theory here, all ages within the “Church Age”, could not then expect the imminent coming of Jesus.  In reality, there were seven literal Churches in Revelation, which did see Jesus coming in the clouds of judgment upon that wicked generation.  Our position is often accused of not taking the scriptures literally.  Who is doing so with the seven churches in Revelation?  It is the dark side doing so.  The darker and darker, worse and worse murmurers, whose bones will be bleached in the wilderness.  They'll become dryer and dryer in the dispensational desert, without the water of the Spirit to bring life to themselves or their hearers. We are in the last days of pre-millennialism! In 200 years, when historians read the current pre-millennial Bible Prophecy books, we will see who's word's will stand, theirs or ours?  I can read “Bible Prophecy” books from five years ago, that would embarrass anyone who didn't have a seared conscience on the matter, as today's “Bible Prophecy” writers have. 

    In conclusion, the time and space of God's layout must be understood, because if we don't know where we are, how then can we know where we're going? Equally important is, how far are we to go horizontally, and how far are we to go vertically? The directory of God's layout plan says to us, “YOU ARE HERE in the everlasting covenant.  The dimensions of God's layout have no boundaries, horizontally, covering the earth and the fullness there of.   It has no limits vertically. (Eph.1:3, 2:6)  The leaven of the kingdom expands horizontally, and raises the standard vertically. Mt.13:33-Says that the kingdom of HEAVEN is like leaven, NOT the kingdom of darkness is like leaven.  Once again, the Bizarrow gospel gets it backwards.

    The blue prints of God call for the building of His Church to be upon the foundation of the Apostles and Prophets.  This is the foundation of the revelation of Jesus as The Messiah (Mt.16:16-19), as revealed within the scriptures (Lk.24:32,44-48).  Once again, the Apostle's teaching must be this foundation.  It takes every word of God revealing Christ, and His body, which is His Church, His building and temple.  It is His bride, not His concubine. It's His own body, which He nourishes and cherishes. He does not have two corporate bodies. He is not a polygamist with another babe on the side. We are not currently shaking up with Christ! (Rom.7:4, 2 Cor.11:2, Rev.21:1-3) This foundational truth has been thrown aside and replaced with the “Church Age” misunderstanding.  Any building, upon any other foundation, such as pre-millennialism, will end in a catastrophic collapse.  And how great is the fall of such a house built upon the dispensational sand of the Middle East.  If a structure is off by a sixteenth of an inch, sometimes it can suffer disastrous results.  The dispensational, pre-millennial blue prints are off by thousands of miles, literally!  It's in the wrong hemisphere, and off by two millennia as to the timing of the fulfillment of the prophetic events it forecasts. It has created, like never before, an abundance of self assured madness amongst so many propagating pastors and teachers.  They are pastors of world wide disasters.  Who's mind's and heart's have been defiled, and are under the dark delusion that they have ,with their eschatology, some inside track to soon coming world events.  They profess out of their own hearts and follow their own spirit, and have seen nothing! (Ez.13:2,3)  Their gloom and doom has made the heart of the righteous sad, whom God has not made sad.  (Ez.13:22)  They feed only themselves (Ez.34:10), and their own sci-fi fancies, inspired by testosterone induced images of burning nukes (strange fire) and other high tech weaponry, spiritual porn. They peddle their smut through books and video's never satisfying the eye's of the natural man.  Pastor's who carry themselves as foreign policy and geo-political experts, but are really only Pastors who carry the blue prints for disaster!